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Why would the Mets want to trade Niese?

Written by Zack Arenstein 11:11 AM, December 17th, 2011

Michael Baron over at Metsblog had a good take on why the Mets would want to trade Jon Niese. While Michael makes some great points, to me, the fact that they're looking to trade him right now is actually a testament to how valuable he actually is. For the same reason the Oakland A's are shopping Gio Gonzalez, Sandy Alderson thought it was a good opportunity to listen to offers for Niese. This action is completely dictated by the current state of the market for starting pitching. There is a ton of demand (as there always will be), but there's little supply. A young, cost-controlled, improving, left-handed starting pitcher holds heightened value right now because there aren't many available, quality starting pitchers in trade or free agency. 

One thing that should always be kept in mind is the fact that the current team of executives running the Mets baseball operations is very savy, and they would never make a trade they didn't whole-heartedly believe was in the best interest of the franchise long term. With that in mind, I can say with certainty that Niese will not be dealt unless it's for a package of assets that makes the team better off long term. The Mets obviously feel that they could get incredible value for Niese if they deal him now. And I'd have no problem with trading Niese in a deal like that.

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Oh boy, last night felt good…

Written by Zack Arenstein 14:14 PM, October 8th, 2011

For the last 6 months, we've watched a mediocre Mets team have their ups and downs throughout the course of the 2011 major league baseball season. They're better off due to this past year's events than they were before in my opinion, but that's really a topic for another day. Now by comparison, the Phillies really just had their ups and more ups throughout the course of the season. They won their 5th consecutive NL East division title with a 102-60 record, best in the majors. They had the most dominant starting pitching in the game by a large margin. It's hard to go on long losing streaks when you can throw Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, and Cole Hamels out there on consecutive days. This was painful for Mets fans to watch no doubt.

Last night, on the other hand, was pure jubilation. We saw two extremely competitive games, in decisive Game 5's no less. The Brewers and Diamondbacks game was exciting (though completely secondary in the grand scheme of things last night from my perspective), and then there were the Cardinals and Phillies. The Cardinals got off to an early lead, scoring a run on a Skip Schumaker double in the first inning off of Roy Halladay. Normally, the Phillies would find a way to strike back. But they never did. That run was the only one scored in the game. Halladay followed that first inning up with 7 scoreless, striking out 7 while walking just 1 over the course of his outing. On the other side, Carpenter was flawless, and I loved every minute of it. Well, maybe not Ryan Howard potentially tearing his Achilles. I may hate the guy as a player, but I don't want to see anyone hurt like that.

Sports is really the one place in life where I feel comfortable reveling in the misfortune of others (barring injury). And I tend to take advantage. The Patriots being beat by the Giants in the Super Bowl, pushing their season record to 18-1? Awesome. The Celtics losing a tough Game 7 against the Lakers in which Kobe played like crap and their best player was Ron Artest, who went on to thank, among others though in my opinion most prominently, his psychiatrist in his post game interview? Fantastic. Even to a lesser extent the Yankees losing Game 5 to an inferior Detroit Tigers squad capped off by an inevitable Alex Rodriguez strikeout? Stellar. Despite the fact that my favorite teams suffered through mediocre, awful, and borderline historically awful seasons during these events, I didn't enjoy them any less. While having my favorite team cause these enormous failures for said hated franchises is 10 times better, I still love watching them lose to other franchises. I've seen the Jets knock the Patriots out of the playoffs. I've seen the Nets knock the Celtics and Knicks out of the playoffs, but I'll take these moments any way I can get them. So naturally when the Phillies fail to meet even the most reasonable of expectations, I'm over the moon with joy. Phillies fans can say whatever they want to me about how the Mets are no where near as good as their team, and they would of course be right. It doesn't mean I can't thoroughly enjoy their loss. 

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As crazy as it seems, I have to outline the positives of the Mets being good…

Written by Zack Arenstein 14:14 PM, July 1st, 2011

All I've heard about from the talking heads of New York since the Mets have fought they're back to the .500 mark and beyond is how hard this is going to make it for the Mets to trade the guys they need to trade, whether it be Reyes, Beltran, K-Rod, whoever. I've actually heard people talking about how the Mets strong play over the past month or two is negative for the franchise because they won't unload they're players like they should be doing because they obviously have no shot to compete for a championship. And therefore, it's smartest to destroy the roster. I have a few points to make about this whole situation:

  • The Mets are winning baseball games, which is good: The ultimate goal of any major league franchise is to win a championship. To do that, you need to win games. That's exactly what the Mets are doing. Trading Jose Reyes doesn't advance that goal in the slightest.
  • Even if you feel the Mets need to deal all of their pieces; this is still a good thing: Why wouldn't you want all of your players that you intend on trading playing as well as they can? At the start of the season, Reyes returns one nice prospect and maybe another mid-level guy or two. Right now, the Mets have every right to demand the moon in return with the way Reyes is playing. Unless they get bowled over with an offer, they can't trade him because they'll be losing value. If you subscribe to theory that Beltran has to be traded (which I don't), then let him hit the cover off the ball so a team desperate for an outfielder with pop will overpay for him.
  • The team is fun to watch: I don't honestly care about what the Mets will be like 3 years from now when you get right down to it. I want them to be good right now, fun to watch right now. And they are. The Mets have prospects in the minors who will make tomorrow exciting. We don't need to give up hands down the most exciting player in baseball today to maybe win tomorrow when the Mets are winning games right now. 

The Mets open a 3-game series tonight against the Yankees. Unlike some Mets fans I've heard from, I want them to annihilate the Yankees.

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Matt Harvey and Matt den Dekker promoted; prospects finally being handled correctly…

Written by Zack Arenstein 22:22 PM, June 21st, 2011

As reported by Adam Rubin of ESPN New York, Matt Harvey and Matt den Dekker have been promoted from A-St. Lucie to AA-Binghamton. Clearly both players have proven they are ready to be promoted to the next level in the minor leagues, and I think that's really the key piece to take away from this bit of news. 

Over the past few years, a mishandling of prospects by the Mets front office has lead to some unfortunate results. Jenrry Mejia is the lead example of this. Before last season, after only making a few appearances in AA at the end of 2009, Mejia was wrongly promoted to the major league roster to pitch in the bullpen. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but I think it's safe to say that most fans and members of the media thought this was a terrible idea. It turns out to essentially have stunted Mejia's growth by 2 years including the Tommy John surgery he underwent a few months ago. The switching between being a starter and a reliever is thought to be the main culprit of his injury problems. The Mets should've left him alone in AA last season to be groomed as a starter. Even when Mejia comes back at age 22 sometime next season, he'll still have a long way to go if the Mets plan to use him as a starting pitcher in the majors. 94.2 innings is the maximum amount he's thrown in a season. He'd have to almost double that to go a full season in the majors.

This is why I'm so glad the Mets have changed the way they handle prospects, even though Harvey is a much more polished pitcher coming into the season. There's nothing wrong with letting pitching prospects hone their skills and gain experience as well as confidence in the minor leagues. St. Lucie proved to be a good test for Harvey. Now that he has shown through a full half of a season that he is capable of dominating the competition at that level on a consistent basis, he's ready to be challenged again at the next level in Binghamton. He's not being rushed like past Mets pitching prospects. 

What makes the Mets treatment of Mejia even less palatable is the state of the major league team at the time in which he was brought to the majors. The Mets were never expected to compete for a World Series last year. If they were, then bringing up a guy like Mejia to give the team that final piece that they needed would've made sense. Since that wasn't the case it of course made things worse. And since the Mets aren't really expected to do much more damage this year than they did last year, it makes even more sense to let Matt Harvey take his time and develop into a frontline starting pitcher who can provide the maximum amount of value over the course of his tenure with the Mets.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Harvey does in AA the rest of this year (and hope to make it up to school in time to see him pitch before Binghamton's season comes to an end.) The Mets are in no rush to get him to the majors, as they shouldn't be. Let the cookies bake in the oven so to speak. It might be hard to wait, but they'll be that much better once they're ready.

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Future Impact: Jason Raymond Bay

Written by Zack Arenstein 13:13 PM, June 14th, 2011

*In our second installment of the Future Impact series: How does Jason Bay factor into the Mets future?*

(To read the first installment: "Future Impact: Robert Alan Dickey", click here)

Jason Bay is not a young player. He's 32 years old. He'll be 33 before the season is over. However, he is going to be a part of the Mets future for at least the next 2 seasons, over which they owe him more than $36M. Normally, if a team is paying a player $36M over a 2 year span, that player is going to be one of your biggest contributors. As any Mets fan would tell you, he has been anything but that. In his two years with the Mets he's hit just 8 home runs with a .697 OPS. That's not going to cut it if he hopes to even approach earning his salary. Let's see what he's going to mean to the Mets going forward.

When Omar Minaya decided to give Jason Bay the contract he's under now, Bay was coming off one of the best seasons of his career with the Red Sox. In fact, he was one of the best hitters in baseball that season. He hit 36 home runs while posting a .921 OPS. To put that in perspective, if that was his current OPS he'd be ranked 7th in the category in the NL. That's the type of production the Mets expected when they signed Bay. That is not who Bay has been for the Mets. He really hasn't been much better than the random players they would throw out in left field before they signed him. 

So what are the chances that Bay can be productive for the Mets over the next 2+ seasons he has left on his current contract? It's incredibly hard to tell. It's not often that major league sluggers fall off a cliff quite like Bay has done. Whether it has something to do with Citi field's dimensions, or the incredible amount of money he makes now making him a bit less aggressive as far as keeping his production, I'm not sure. There are plenty of holes in any of the arguments being thrown around. Whatever it is, I don't really know what to think about Bay going forward. But I do know this. Don't expect the Mets to be able to trade him. With all of the money he's making no team is going to take him off their hands without a large portion of his contract being paid for. I don't see the Mets doing that with their current financial situation. So know this. We're stuck with him, for better or worse. 

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  • News Flash: The Mets starting pitching has been really, really good…

    Post on: 21:21 PM, June 12th, 2011

    Since June 3rd, although the mets are just 6-3 over that span (not a bad record, but given the stats I'm about to dish out you'd think they would be just a little better), the Mets starting pitching has been stellar. In fact, no Mets starter has gone fewer than 6 innings or given up more than 3 runs in any start over that span. Here are a few things you should know about the Mets starting pitchin...

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  • Future Impact: Robert Alan Dickey

    Post on: 9:09 AM, June 11th, 2011

    *In our first installment of the Future Impact series: How does R.A. Dickey factor into the future of the Mets?* Born (Age): October 24, 1974 (36) ...

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  • Future Impact: Introduction

    Post on: 15:15 PM, June 10th, 2011

    The average age on the Mets of the Mets is 28.9 according to ESPN. That number has come pretty far down since 2006 when the team was filled with lots of old players like Tom Glavine, Orlando Hernandez, Darren Oliver, Jose Valentin, and of course, Julio Franco. I'm really glad to see the team finally inject some youth into its roster. While some of these players have similar production over the course...

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  • With all the nonsense this team has dealt with, the Mets are only 4.5 out…

    Post on: 14:14 PM, June 10th, 2011

    To say the Mets have been a circus for the past few years would be something of an understatement. In the past year the Mets have had to deal with their ownership coming under increasing levels of scrutiny for their suspected involvement in the Bernie Madoff scandal. Despite all of that, not to mention the key injuries the roster has withstood over the first third of the season, they're only 4.5 game...

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  • Do the Mets Have to Trade Jose Reyes?

    Post on: 7:07 AM, May 7th, 2011

    The Mets seem to be in a bit of an awkward situation at this point in the season. They're currently 14-18 in the standings, good for last place in the NL East, a game back of the Washington Nationals. They've had some injuries here and there, but nothing absolutely unbearable like we've seen in the past. The general diagnosis at this point is that the Mets have talent, but they haven't go...

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  • Starting Pitching is what it’s all about

    Post on: 2:02 AM, April 23rd, 2011

    The bottom line is this. When the Mets get quality innings from their starting pitching, everything else will fall into place. The Mets as a team were absolutely horrid to start the season from a pitching stand point. To this point they hold a 4.75 ERA as a team. Nothing to brag about by any stretch, but it's plenty better than the 5.24 ERA they had before R.A. Dickey made his start against the Astro...

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  • Since when can the Marlins make defensive plays like that?

    Post on: 9:09 AM, April 3rd, 2011

    A few things stuck out for me last night as the game progressed. Since when can the Marlins play defense like that? I can think of at least 4 exceptional plays to the Marlins made in the field last night in order to keep the Mets offense on hold last night. I felt like the Mets as a team had a very good beat on Nolasco the whole night and were just getting extremely unlucky last night in ...

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  • How good of a bullpen did Alderson put together for this season?

    Post on: 12:12 PM, April 1st, 2011

    On Tuesday, Joe Pawlikowski of FanGraphs wr...

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  • Jason Bay to start season on DL

    Post on: 10:10 AM, March 31st, 2011

    Much to everyone's surprise, Carlos Beltran is not the projected Opening Day starter who won't be in the Mets lineup Friday at Florida. That great honor goes to Jason Bay who should've been the Mets left fielder from day one. I hate to see this happen to Bay because I think it's important for him to get off to a good start this season considering how last season went and this is obviously not going to qua...

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  • The plan was always to get Johan 100% for 2012

    Post on: 9:09 AM, March 13th, 2011

    According to Steve Popper of the Bergen Record, Johan Santana's throwing hasn't been going well and could be shut down for the rest of the season. First off, obviously I want to see Johan on the field and healthy as soon as possible. When he's healthy, he's an utterly fantas...

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Mets Spotlight

Mets Spotlight Week 1

 

25 Man Roster

ROTATION:

1. RH - Mike Pelfrey
2. RH - Miguel Batista
3. RH - R. A. Dickey
4. RH - Dillon Gee
5. LH -
Chris Capuano

BULLPEN:

RH- Manny Acosta
RH - Pedro Beato
LH - Tim Byrdak
RH - D.J. Carrasco
RH - Ryota Igarashi
RH - Jason Isringhausen
RH - Bobby Parnell

POSITION STARTERS:

1. SS - Jose Reyes
2. 2B - Ruben Tejada
3. 3B - David Wright
4. RF - Lucas Duda
5. CF - Angel Pagan
> 6. LF - Jason Bay
7. 1B - Nick Evans
8. C - Josh Thole

BENCH:

OF - Willie Harris
C - Mike Nickeas
C - Ronny Paulino
OF - Jason Pridle

 

26 to 40 Roster

PITCHERS:

RH - Manny Alvarez
RH - Taylor Buchholz (15 DL)
RH - Jenrry Mejia (15 DL)
LH - Jon Niese (15 DL)
RH - Armando Rodriguez
LH - Johan Santana (60 DL)
RH - Josh Stinson
RH - Dale Thayer
RH - Chris Young (60 DL)

CATCHERS:

INFIELDERS:

1B - Ike Davis (15 DL)
1B - Mike Baxter
SS - Chin-lung Hu
3B - Zach Lutz
1B - Daniel Murphy (15 DL)
2B - Jordany Valdespin

OUTFIELDERS:

OF - Scott Hairston (15 DL)
OF - Fernando Martinez