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Future Impact: Jason Raymond Bay

Written by Zack Arenstein 13:13 PM, June 14th, 2011

*In our second installment of the Future Impact series: How does Jason Bay factor into the Mets future?*

(To read the first installment: "Future Impact: Robert Alan Dickey", click here)

Jason Bay is not a young player. He's 32 years old. He'll be 33 before the season is over. However, he is going to be a part of the Mets future for at least the next 2 seasons, over which they owe him more than $36M. Normally, if a team is paying a player $36M over a 2 year span, that player is going to be one of your biggest contributors. As any Mets fan would tell you, he has been anything but that. In his two years with the Mets he's hit just 8 home runs with a .697 OPS. That's not going to cut it if he hopes to even approach earning his salary. Let's see what he's going to mean to the Mets going forward.

When Omar Minaya decided to give Jason Bay the contract he's under now, Bay was coming off one of the best seasons of his career with the Red Sox. In fact, he was one of the best hitters in baseball that season. He hit 36 home runs while posting a .921 OPS. To put that in perspective, if that was his current OPS he'd be ranked 7th in the category in the NL. That's the type of production the Mets expected when they signed Bay. That is not who Bay has been for the Mets. He really hasn't been much better than the random players they would throw out in left field before they signed him. 

So what are the chances that Bay can be productive for the Mets over the next 2+ seasons he has left on his current contract? It's incredibly hard to tell. It's not often that major league sluggers fall off a cliff quite like Bay has done. Whether it has something to do with Citi field's dimensions, or the incredible amount of money he makes now making him a bit less aggressive as far as keeping his production, I'm not sure. There are plenty of holes in any of the arguments being thrown around. Whatever it is, I don't really know what to think about Bay going forward. But I do know this. Don't expect the Mets to be able to trade him. With all of the money he's making no team is going to take him off their hands without a large portion of his contract being paid for. I don't see the Mets doing that with their current financial situation. So know this. We're stuck with him, for better or worse. 

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Future Impact: Robert Alan Dickey

Written by Zack Arenstein 9:09 AM, June 11th, 2011

*In our first installment of the Future Impact series: How does R.A. Dickey factor into the future of the Mets?*

 

I thought I'd start off the series with one of the more interesting cases on the team as far as future impact is concerned. As you probably know, Dickey is old. He's 36 year's old to be exact. So what kind of future can Dickey really have in the Mets organization? Actually, he could have a lot more value going forward than some might think for a couple of reasons. 

The first reason is he's a knuckleballer. Knuckleballers tend to last longer, showing the ability to pitch into their 40s. Joe and Phil Niekro are obviously prime examples both pitching into their 40s (43 and 48 respectively). Another example would of course be current Red Sox pitcher Tim Wakefield. He's currently 44 years old and is still chugging along for the Red Sox. He's now the longest tenured member of the Sox sticking on the roster since the 1995 season. So there is clearly a precedent for knucklers to hang around. Granted, these are some of the best to ever let the ball flutter, but Dickey has shown in his two years with the Mets that he can be effective. Speaking of which…

In his two years with the Mets, despite a shaky start to this season, R.A. Dickey's gotten back on track and he has shown that he can be a very good pitcher without overwhelming velocity. He does have a mid-80s fastball which is rare for a knuckler to employ, if not completely unprecedented. This is really the key to his success in my opinion. His uniqueness as a pitcher really throws off opposing hitters. Not only does he get a strong differentiation between the speed and movement of his pitches. But unless you've seen him a few times as a batter, it's incredibly difficult to compete with him given the fact that there aren't any other pitchers like him in the majors right now. Batters just aren't used to facing a pitcher like Dickey.

So what does all of this mean for Dickey and the Mets going forward? It means that maybe you should get used to seeing Dickey in a Mets uniform, because there's a possibility that he's going to stick around for awhile. He's under contract for next season with a club option for 2013. He'll be 40 years old in the 2015 season. Anyone want to bet against the fact that he's still a Met by then? I don't…

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Future Impact: Introduction

Written by Zack Arenstein 15:15 PM, June 10th, 2011

The average age on the Mets of the Mets is 28.9 according to ESPN. That number has come pretty far down since 2006 when the team was filled with lots of old players like Tom Glavine, Orlando Hernandez, Darren Oliver, Jose Valentin, and of course, Julio Franco. I'm really glad to see the team finally inject some youth into its roster. While some of these players have similar production over the course of the season to older guys, their best days are still ahead of them. They're still learning and they offer hope for the future. So with all that in mind, I decided to see just how important the current Mets can be for the Mets long term. So once every day or so, I'll put up a post about the future possibilites . Here are the players under consideration:

  • Pedro Beato
  • RA Dickey
  • Dillon Gee
  • Jonathon Niese
  • Bobby Parnell
  • Mike Pelfrey
  • Francisco Rodriguez
  • Josh Thole
  • Daniel Murphy
  • Jose Reyes
  • Ruben Tejada
  • Justin Turner
  • Jason Bay
  • Angel Pagan
  • Jason Pridie
  • Taylor Buchholz
  • Ike Davis
  • David Wright
  • Lucas Duda
  • Fernando Martinez
  • Jenrry Mejia
  • Johan Santana

I know there are a few older guys on the list like RA Dickey, but I think analyzing his future on the team is going to be really interesting as a matter of fact. 

Look for the first segment within the next few days.

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Do the Mets Have to Trade Jose Reyes?

Written by Zack Arenstein 7:07 AM, May 7th, 2011

The Mets seem to be in a bit of an awkward situation at this point in the season. They're currently 14-18 in the standings, good for last place in the NL East, a game back of the Washington Nationals. They've had some injuries here and there, but nothing absolutely unbearable like we've seen in the past. The general diagnosis at this point is that the Mets have talent, but they haven't gotten the consistent starting pitching they need in order to be successful. As a result, rumors have begun to fly about almost every major part of the major league roster. That includes Carlos Beltran, Francisco Rodriguez, Johan Santana, and even David Wright and, of course, Jose Reyes. The latter two guys seem to hold the most value on the market, and for good reason. I find it hard to believe David Wright will be traded, mostly because the status of his contract. The Mets hold control over him for another 2 seasons, so there is still a good chance to build a good team around him while he's still under his current contract. The story is different for Jose Reyes.

Reyes is going to be a free agent at season's end barring an unlikely extension. The question for Reyes is, will the season expire with him manning shortstop for the Mets, or another major league club? Many people believe there will come a point where the Mets will have no choice but to trade him. With the way the new front office operates, most people don't think Reyes will get an offer from the Mets similar to the long term contract he may draw on the open market, ballooning to a value as high as the one Carl Crawford received from the Boston Red Sox, and that's a fair point. But consider this. At this juncture in the 2011 season, according to FanGraphs, Reyes has been the 7th most valuable player in all of baseball, 1st among shortstops (a list including Mets-slayer Troy Tulowitzki) by a fairly large margin considering we're only about 5 weeks into the season. He has been absolutely unreal to be quite honest. He's on pace to hit about 15 triples in addition to over 50 doubles. In case you were wondering, both those totals would have led the major leagues in 2010. The triples total would've also led in 2009. Not in 2008 however, since Jose Reyes himself hit 19 that year. The long and short of it is this. Jose Reyes is really freaking good.

Quite frankly, with all due respect to Ike Davis, Jose Reyes has been the bright spot on the Mets roster so far this season. When healthy, his combination of tangible production and overall excitement is something no other baseball player on the planet earth can match. And no, I don't think I'm exaggerating. Back in 2006, when he was healthy, hitting his stride as a baseball player, and the Mets as a team were having their most successful season of the decade while coming inches away from the franchise's 5th pennant, Reyes was widely considered the most exciting player in all of baseball. While he isn't playing for that same team, right now, he's playing like that same Jose Reyes. He may not put up the same totals for various reasons (team is more conservative about stealing bases/team behind him isn't as good so he won't score the same amount of runs or get the same number of plate appearances) but the player we're watching now is every bit as good as that player from 2006. Why on earth would any team be stupid enough to trade a guy like this way? He's a completely unique player who can never be replaced. Not really. 

No player is without their question marks going forward, Jose Reyes is included. It's one of the reasons guys like Mets GM Sandy Alderson would want to refrain from doling out long term contracts in general, not just to players like Reyes. And when I say players like Reyes, I mean players with a history of injury problems and a guy who relies heavily on his speed to produce as a major league baseball player, and I think both concerns are fair. Let's start with the injury history. At least for now, Reyes is healthy. We don't know if the injuries will crop up again, but I will say this. I think that his injuries have been grossly mishandled in the past by people like Omar Minaya. In 2009 when Reyes missed 126 games, he should've immediately been placed on the disabled list when the injury first cropped up. However, he was kept around for several weeks while the Mets hoped he'd be able to get better and stay off the DL. The Mets current regime has shown very emphatically that when a player on their roster shows the smallest signs of injury that they will be placed on the DL immediately in order to reduce the risk of any further injury. I think this philosophy will work wonders for Reyes going forward should he remain with the franchise. And as far as him aging badly goes, does anyone really think he'd be absolutely nothing without his speed? Is he not a smart baseball player with a fantastic attitude? He makes good contact at the plate and he's learning to be more patient and draw walks. He'd also still be an above average major league shortstop. In no way am I saying he's going to be the same player at 35 as he will be at 28 or 29, but he'll still be a good major leaguer. And even paying him an average of $18+ million a season during a contract, he'd still offer a surplus in value in the early years of the contract that could make up for his decreasing value later ala Carlos Beltran (though so far this season Beltran's been very good). 

The real question for Sandy Alderson is this. Is it worth giving Jose Reyes the long term contract? Like I said before, Reyes could warrant a contract as large as the one Carl Crawford received from the Red Sox, a 7-year, $126 million contract. Now whether or not the Wilpons could actually sign Reyes to this contract could put a damper on this whole discussion. I believe they'll be able to due to the large sum of money coming off the books this winter in addition to the new minority ownership coming into play shortly. So assuming Alderson has the means to do so, would he pull the trigger? The Mets GM is not one to make gut decisions on such things. He's going to go to the data he has and make a decision based on that. He'll talk to all of his scouts, consult all of his statisticians and doctors at his disposal and make an educated decision. When it comes down to it, the question Alderson will answer is this, just like he probably does with every other player he decides to sign or not. Will Reyes add more value to the team over the course of that contract than what the Mets are going to be paying him in dollars and cents? If that answer is yes, the Mets will hang on to him. We've heard Alderson say in the past he knows the fans love homegrown talent and it is a factor he considers. Why would he not try to keep one of the best around at his position if he's worth it and homegrown? Spoiler alert: he WOULD keep him. 

I have no doubt that if the time comes and Jose Reyes is forced to put on an Angels, Reds, or Giants uniform, it's going to be a bleak day in Mets history. I just hope it never does. 

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It’s Time to Move Wright Down

Written by Brandon Lee 11:11 AM, May 2nd, 2011

Watching David Wright at points this season has been painful. Wright has struck out ten times in the past ten games, and now has 32 strike outs through 28 games. With every game counting right now, the Mets need to put themselves in a position to win. Wright is not getting the big hits when his team needs it and he strikes out way too much to be a number three hitter. I think it's time to drop Wright down in the order, to the five or six spot. 

When Angel Pagan comes back, my line-up would look something like this:

  1. Jose Reyes – SS
  2. Angel Pagan – CF
  3. Carlos Beltran – RF
  4. Jason Bay – LF
  5. Ike Davis – 1B
  6. David Wright – 3B
  7. Daniel Murphy – 2B
  8. Josh Thole – C

I like Carlos Beltran in the third spot because he doesn't strike out as much as Jason Bay, Ike Davis, and Wright, plus he is a switch hitter, which gives the Mets three switch hitters at the top of the line-up. 

I don't think this should be a permanent spot of Wright, but right now he is not the team's best number three hitter.

Wright might see worse pitches with Murphy behind him instead of Beltran, but right now I don't think it really matters. Pitchers know they can get Wright to swing at pitches out of the strike zone, being down in the order he might see more of them, and learn to lay off of them.  

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