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Derek Who?

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#1 yogib8



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 03:23 PM

The Big Apple was the scene of the return of the power bat at SS in 2016. 


Both Cabrera and D. Gregorius reached 20 Hrs., which hadn't been achieved in 11 seasons.  they also both totaled in excess of 50 XBH which hadn't been done since Reyes laid down a 1st inning bunt to close his 2011 season and hadn't happened in the Bronx in a decade.


Defensively both AC and Gregorius provided a better dWAR than had been seen in NY in 6 years and that was in the occupied former parking lot of Shea Stadium.


IMO, Jeter was a very good player and a consistent cog in a 250 M machine.  His 4 GG and 3 SS were all awarded after the best SS in the AL moved to 3rd base.   The "Captain Clutch" was overstated, his BA with RISP with 2 out was 15 points below his career and the OPS 14 points below.  Both were still very good, but more like Lieutenant Clutch. 

#2 Saxon



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 11:37 PM

what he said...


in short...I've always thought that Derek Jeter was extremely over-rated, and one of the luckiest ballplayers in MLB history...If Ernie Banks and Derek Jeter had swapped careers, would the Cubs drought ended sooner? Would the Yanks of the Mariano Rivera era have won less World Series? yeah, didn't think so either....

#3 brian stark

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 11:22 AM

Baseball Prospectus put it best a while back.


When assessing Derek Jeter's defensive "prowess" they said his nickname should be "Pasta Diving".


Meaning that when you listened to the broadcast of Yankee games every day, that's what you heard a lot... "Grounder pasta diving Jeter."


His defense was ALWAYS overrated, especially in his gold glove years, of which I would bet that all three should have been given to more deserving candidates, but "The Captain" got them instead.


He made a few memorable plays in the field (the dive into the stands against the Sox and the backhand running flip against the A's immediately come to mind), but frankly that to me was more blind squirrel tripping over a nut than defensive acumen. What he was good at was being at the right place in big spots. There's something to be said for that, true, but to think he was some great clutch fielder (say otherwise to a Yankee fan and see how long it takes for the volcano to erupt) is ridiculous.


He's a Hall of Fame player, but overrated at the same time. That in and of itself is a difficult combination to pull off.

#4 sg34Thor



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:10 AM

Appears that he has fast become the third best Pinstriper shortstop behind Phil Rizzuto and now Didi Gregorious.

And fourth best if they had allowed the vastly better ARod to play his natural position at SS

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