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Mets 2017 - Sellers or Buyers?

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#76 yogib8

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 01:13 PM

Yogi will tell you I've made this argument before :)  but IMO blame the SP.  Another game they didn't make it to the 6th.  Mets are 21st in the league with 45 QS in 105 games.  That's beyond terrible.  The BP is burned out.

 

 

yogi isn't disagreeing, as he responds in the 3rd person,  :rotfl:  but yogi is going to put the blame on the back to back tandem of Cespedes and Bruce who were 1-10 with 3 Ks and 7 RISP left on base. 



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Posted 04 August 2017 - 02:19 PM

that back to back baseloaded opportunities really hurt. 4 runs ins't enough to consistantly win in Colorado, and BS made a solid point that 5.1 in Colorado from your #7 (or worse) starter isn't terrible.  

 

That all being said, looking at the macro instead of micro, 45 in 106 games... very disappointing



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:29 PM

Players That Have Cleared Revocable Waivers

:mlbtr: by JEFF TODD

We’ll use this post to keep track of players that have reportedly cleared revocable waivers. Before diving into the names, a few items bear repeating. The majority of Major League players will be placed on trade waivers this month, with most instances going unreported. There are undoubtedly players (quite a few of them, most likely) who have already cleared waivers but have not been reported to have done so. Players can be traded into September, as well, but only those traded on or before Aug. 31 will be eligible for the postseason with their new teams, so there’s some urgency for contending clubs to complete deals by month’s end. And, of course, for those who aren’t familiar with the inner-workings of waiver trades, MLBTR published a full explanation of how August trades work earlier this month.
 
Here’s the current list:

  • Jay Bruce, OF, Mets (link): The veteran corner outfielder has been a productive hitter all year long, and brings excellent power from the left side. He’s playing on a $13MM salary this year as free agency awaits. Bruce looks like an obvious trade piece, but it’s unclear whether there’ll be enough demand for an offer to intrigue the Mets — who evidently see some merit in issuing Bruce a qualifying offer at the end of the season.
  • Curtis Granderson, OF, Mets (link): Like Bruce, Granderson has had a productive season (.223/.330/.446 over 358 plate apperarances), and rates as a viable August trade candidate. His $15MM salary this season will surely be a consideration for interested teams, but it shouldn’t be an insurmountable obstacle. The Brewers reportedly had at least some interest in Granderson prior to the July trade deadline.
  • Yoenis Cespedes, OF, Mets (link): Unlike fellow Mets outfielders Bruce and Granderson, Cespedes doesn’t seem like a logical trade candidate. Cespedes is in the first season of a four-year, $110MM deal, and the Mets gave the franchise cornerstone a full no-trade clause when they re-signed him.
  • Neil Walker, 2B, Mets (link): Walker’s an impending free agent whom the Mets aren’t interested in extending, and as a onetime qualifying offer recipient, he won’t be eligible to get another one in the offseason. He’s a clear August trade possibility, then, though it’s unclear if any contender will push for a second baseman – let alone a fairly expensive one. Walker still has about $6MM coming his way through the end of the season.
  • Asdrubal Cabrera, INF, Mets (link): Cabrera, who’s making $8.25MM this season and has either an $8.5MM club option or a $2MM buyout for 2018, drew trade interest in July. However, recent indications are that the Mets are leaning toward keeping him in the fold for next year.

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#79 yogib8

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 12:16 PM

Yoenis Cespedes, OF, Mets (link): Unlike fellow Mets outfielders Bruce and Granderson, Cespedes doesn’t seem like a logical trade candidate. Cespedes is in the first season of a four-year, $110MM deal, and the Mets gave the franchise cornerstone a full no-trade clause when they re-signed him.

 

 

Buyers remorse?  Why else put him through waivers?



#80 METS FANG

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:18 AM

because you put everyone through waivers.

 

you think if someone came along and offered the mets a ridiculously insane deal, they turn it down just because they are loyal?  No.  It's a .001% chance, but thats still higher than 0% if you don't.

 

That said, Ces would likely veto the trade anyway unless they upped his contract in some way... so again, .0001 now... sill higher than 0%...


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:47 AM

:mlbtr: by CONNOR BYRNE
 
Mets outfielder Curtis Granderson, who cleared revocable trade waivers on Aug. 5, hasn’t generated much interest on the market, Marc Carig of Newsday reports. That could be thanks in part to the approximately $4.27MM remaining on Granderson’s contract. Even factoring in a nightmarish April in which he hit .128/.174/.221, Granderson has had another fine offensive season. Because the lefty-swinger remains a threat the plate, it’s still possible the Mets will find a taker for him in the next two-plus weeks, Carig writes. Regardless of where he finishes the season, Granderson would like to continue his career in 2018, which would be his age-37 campaign.
 
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#82 brian stark

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 07:00 PM

Updated Puma report...

 

https://www.sny.tv/m...treak/248319906



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 04:25 PM

Mets Acquire Travis Snider, Sign Neil Wagner

:mlbtr: by JEFF TODD

The Mets have announced two minor acquisitions, with outfielder Travis Snider joining the club through a trade with the Rangers and righty Neil Wagner signing a minors deal with the organization. Both players will head to Triple-A Las Vegas.

Snider, 29, comes over in a minor swap with the Rangers. He did not need to clear waivers since he was on the 40-man roster. Cash considerations will go to Texas in return, per Marc Carig of Newsday (via Twitter).
 
Though he has not seen the majors since 2015, Snider has taken nearly two thousand plate appearances at the game’s highest level with the Blue Jays, Pirates, and Orioles. He had been playing with the Rangers’ top affiliate this year, posting a .294/.375/.435 batting line over 413 trips to the plate.
 
New York doesn’t have a clear need at the major league level for Snider right now, but perhaps that could change. The club has moved numerous veterans already, and may still consider swaps involving Curtis Granderson.
 
Wagner, too, could either function as upper-level depth or provide a fresh arm to the pen. Like Snider, he has appeared in the bigs with Toronto; he also had a brief debut stint with the A’s. Wagner hasn’t seen the majors since 2014, but was pitching well this year at Triple-A in the Rays organization. Through 44 innings, he owns a 3.07 ERA with 8.4 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9.
 
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#84 brian stark

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 05:08 PM

Two guys brought in to fill Vegas roster when rosters expand and they need bodies.

 

Unless, of course, Teblow gets promoted again. After all, the only thing left for him to do apparently is walk on water and turn water into wine.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 06:12 PM

gotta go Tebow, didn't you... ;)

 

Solid OPS btw - though the .240 average ain't gonna cut it.



#86 brian stark

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:14 PM

LOL, just making a joke...



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 10:54 AM

gotta go Tebow, didn't you... ;)

 

Solid OPS btw - though the .240 average ain't gonna cut it.

 

in the Sandy realm of baseball reality:

batting average, speed and defense are meaningless....

pitch counts,  not swinging at pitches out of the zone and occasional solo homeruns are where it's at...actual baseball skills are not taken into account



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:15 PM

Manfred and MLB could fix that by mandating that umpire's call strike zone pitches strikes, instead of each umpire's bias toward high strikes or low strikes not to mention strikes that catch a corner.  

 

More strikes equal fewer BBs and put the batter on notice "swing the bat" .   Were would that take us....fewer Ks, fewer BBs and more balls in play.   More on the field action, instead of the 3 true outcomes and a increased value for defense and BA. 

 

The real power hitters would still get their Hrs., but the pseudo hitter with his 30 Hrs, .240 BA and 180 Ks would find himself playing behind the .290 hitter with his 15 Hrs.   Welcome to the world of the under 3 hour game, no pitching clock...but pitchers who wouldn't agonize while pacing and shaking off the signs, because they would have a legitimate strike zone to work with.

 

Chick love the long ball....Chicks love the money that the long ball earns.   Fans love the ball in play. 



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 04:59 PM

Agree 100%, yogi.



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Posted Yesterday, 12:00 AM

Heyman’s Latest: Mets

:mlbtr: by JEFF TODD and STEVE ADAMS
 
After striking a variety of deals already, the Mets are “still working hard” to deal away more players this August, Heyman writes. Veteran outfielder Curtis Granderson still seems like the most obvious possible trade piece, though perhaps infielder Asdrubal Cabrera, lefty Jerry Blevins, catcher Rene Rivera, or even recently-acquired reliever A.J. Ramos could be moved.
 
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