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@  Saxon : (27 Oct 2016 - 18:32)

he got that contract based on being a catcher, yet in those 6 seasons, he's only started 192 games as a catcher...and even if he was mostly a catcher, those stats don't equate into that kind of salary...he's been primarily a DH/1B, where you expect power to justify the salary...whatever GM signed him to that contract should have been fired

@  Saxon : (27 Oct 2016 - 18:29)

I disagree with what your WAR says about Mauer...he's been getting paid $23 Mil per season since the 2011 season...He's averaged 8 HRs, 2 triples, 7 doubles, 55 RBI and 63 runs scored in those seasons...those stats don't say "23 Mil per season player"

@  METS FANG : (27 Oct 2016 - 15:45)

Pujols first extension. Votto is also still producing at a rate that warrants his contract even if the team sucks

@  METS FANG : (27 Oct 2016 - 15:44)

lots ot 6+ year contracts have been a success. top of my head since 2000, CC's first yankee contract. Kerhsaw. Bautista. Bonds. King Felix.

@  yogib8 : (27 Oct 2016 - 14:52)

I don't know if any contract of any length 6+ years has ever been a win....well Matt Holliday is the exception. Heyward has along way to go, but with Mauer it would be difficult to call that a mistake. In the 4 seasons leading up to the contract he led the league in hitting 3 times, won 3 SS and 2 GG and an MVP. He had an accumulated WAR of 23.1 (5.8) and the Twins won the Div. twice. Now we are 6 seasons in and Mauer isn't that player and the Twins aren't that team. Using WAR as a value benchmark Mauer hasn't lived up to the expectations of the 138M he has been paid on the field. WAR has moved from about 6M to about 8M over that period, using 7 as an average he would need a WAR of 19.7 over the past 6 seasons, he has accumulated a WAR of 16.9. In dollars he has failed to cover about 3.25M of his contract per season. Far worse was the 46M that the Mets paid Mo Vaughn for his -1.3 WAR.

@  Saxon : (27 Oct 2016 - 12:33)

kind of funny, Heyward and Joe Mauer are tied for 14th for highest contracts in MLB history...and IMO, both contracts were huge mistakes:


14. Joe Mauer, $184,000,000 (2011-18)
. . . Jason Heyward, $184,000,000 (2016-23)


@  Saxon : (27 Oct 2016 - 12:31)

and Heyword showed this season that he is most likely vastly overpaid...

@  Saxon : (27 Oct 2016 - 11:59)

Did anyone realize that the Cubs have a $170+ mil payroll?

@  Drucifer : (25 Oct 2016 - 12:36)

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Interested in #Cubs history? Here's a look back at our 25-year-old take on Tinker-to-Evers-to-Chance. Worth a read, http://bit.ly/2eBzvC5

@  Drucifer : (24 Oct 2016 - 21:14)

I hoping for a 7-game WS with finish similar to 1960 Pirates-Yankees 7th game.

@  Drucifer : (24 Oct 2016 - 21:12)

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo
This is the 1st World Series to be played between two franchises each with at least a 50-year current championship drought

@  METS FANG : (24 Oct 2016 - 13:48)

I know they just dispatched Kershaw - but my money is on the Indians and their pitchers.

@  yogib8 : (24 Oct 2016 - 13:30)

Well, it looks like I'm having a WS that will be watchable for me. :cubsmini: 1908 vs. :indiansmini: 1948

Who will exorcise a second team's demons....Theo Epstein or Terry Francona?

@  METS FANG : (24 Oct 2016 - 12:56)

The last name I'll mention as I end my Shoutbox monopoly is Cam Newton. Dude is averaging approx 300 all purpose yards and has 11 TDs to 7 turnovers while opening up the running for stewert. Offense can score at high levels (20, 46, 10, 33, 38 in games he's started...) So not sure what to do with Cam. But I'm over 6 anyway, so I'll let you decide :)

@  METS FANG : (24 Oct 2016 - 12:51)

Notably absent names from this list are Eli, Rodgers and Carson Palmer. All, in my opinion, having average at best years (certainly not the caliber you expected)

@  METS FANG : (24 Oct 2016 - 12:50)

then the second tier having good, if not exceptional years are Prescott, Dalton, Bradford, Luck, Smith.

@  METS FANG : (24 Oct 2016 - 12:48)

so far this season, QBs with high level of play in my mind. Brady, Ryan, Brees, Rivers, Big Ben. The believe it or not #6 is Matt Stafford.

@  METS FANG : (24 Oct 2016 - 12:47)

Yes, there are plenty of QBs out there making defenses look silly despite the teams records. Drew Brees is the first that comes to mind. Rivers and Prescot are two more that come to mind that have losing records despite high offensive production

@  METS FANG : (24 Oct 2016 - 12:44)

disagree with that premise, Ryan Fitzpatrick is the man! Big winner this week! ok, all kidding aside :)

@  Canada Mets Fan : (24 Oct 2016 - 09:15)

Man, this is some of the ugliest football I have ever seen. It's actually unwatchable this season. Are there 6 good QBs in the NFL????

@  brian stark : (23 Oct 2016 - 18:47)

Congrats to the young Cubbies! Good for them. It's almost unfair, one group of extremely long-suffering fans are going to have their dreams come true while another one gets the ultimate dashing of them. Should be an interesting series.

@  Drucifer : (23 Oct 2016 - 12:09)

Well, it looks like I'm having a WS that will be watchable for me. :cubsmini: 1908 vs. :indiansmini: 1948

@  METS FANG : (21 Oct 2016 - 19:47)

no, I agree, they won two BIG games for them. I just don't think they were looking at the 1-2 saying and feeling a massive pressure. Home field advantage waivers constantly in baseball, so I think they were likely calm, collected, and determined with regular tightness in their sphincters haha

@  METS FANG : (21 Oct 2016 - 19:45)

too inexperienced to be scared haha

@  brian stark : (21 Oct 2016 - 15:05)

Agreed, but you have to admit, the Cubs are mostly kids in the lineup and Kershaw is already intimidating enough. Never mind the extreme pressure from the whole city. They were talking about this on ATH yesterday, stated that you could almost physically feel the crowd pressure when they fall behind, it was palpable. That can't be easy to deal with. Again, in a way, I'm pulling for them, but I also would not mind seeing Cleveland win, either. Just not LA.

@  METS FANG : (21 Oct 2016 - 12:05)

Brian, I think its fair to say that its the playoffs, so everyone's sphincter is tighter than normal. But I don't think being down 1-2 was a tightening of a larger degree as initially implied. And yes, They still have to get through Kershaw/Hill again, but if you can't beat the elite pitchers, you don't deserve to go to the WS

@  West Coast M... : (21 Oct 2016 - 10:20)

Being here in Dodger land I do not want them to win but I am conflicted because my pastor is an Indians fan and a very good friend at church is a Dodger fan, thus a Indian-Dodger WS would be fun. I would be the peacemaker! Plus the friend has season tickets so I might be able to go to my 1st WS game! :)

@  brian stark : (21 Oct 2016 - 09:55)

A. Yes, the Series starts on that date, WCMF B. Teams with the longer layoff have actually lost most of the time, yes C. It's easy to have a loose sphincter when you are not facing Kershaw or Hill (a lefty who has already shoved it up the ol' kiester once before in this series). The Cubs are not out of it yet. I'm pulling for them, but even at home, it's going to be a rough go.

@  West Coast M... : (21 Oct 2016 - 09:19)

Hey Brian, doesn't the World Series start on Tuesday regardless of how long the NLCS goes? So the only benefit of the NLCS going longer is less rest for the winner. I seem to recall stats from last year teams with long layoffs did not fare well in the WS.

@  METS FANG : (21 Oct 2016 - 08:55)

so much for those tight sphincters, eh?

@  brian stark : (21 Oct 2016 - 06:16)

The Cubs basically did what they HAD to do last night. With Kershaw and Hill going against them in 6 & (possibly) 7, the Cubs are still facing an uphill climb. Kershaw is dealing, and Hill already stuffed it to them in the previous game. If I'm not mistaken, the Cubs are not that good against lefties, and they will be facing the best one in the game in six and in a game seven anything can happen. It will be interesting, and I'm sure that the Indians are hoping beyond hope that this series goes the distance, giving them maximum healing time.

@  Drucifer : (21 Oct 2016 - 01:19)

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Cubs 8, Dodgers 4. Let's get weird.

@  METS FANG : (20 Oct 2016 - 19:33)

and to think, if she hadn;t disturbed it, you might have lost interest before seeing it flying with a snake in its talons (pretty cool, but I like raptors so I'm biased)

@  yogib8 : (20 Oct 2016 - 11:27)

Saw a Red Tail Hawk in my back yard this AM, it was pecking and pulling up worms just like you'd see a Robin do. My wife startled the bird trying to take a photo and it took off clutching a garden snake for breakfast.

@  brian stark : (20 Oct 2016 - 10:51)

Impressive rebound game from the Cubs, but they are still behind the 8 ball. They basically HAVE to win tonight, because they are SO bad against lefties and the Dodgers have Kershaw (who appears to have the postseason gorilla off his back finally) and Hill (who made the Cubs lineup look like little leaguers) in 6 and 7 with an elite, top-of-his-game Jansen rested and ready to pitch multiple innings in multiple games.

@  Saxon : (19 Oct 2016 - 18:50)

so are the umps going to continue giving the injuns a favorable strikezone even against the almighty dodgers?

@  METS FANG : (19 Oct 2016 - 18:00)

so i guess that does it. Cleveland is WS bound. Good for them! :)

@  METS FANG : (19 Oct 2016 - 15:19)

btw - I hate the 2-3-2 method of series. In my mind, there are so many reasons this game should be in Cleveland and in Chicago. 1st Main: Cleveland has earned the right to be at home for the clinch (held serve + took 1 of 2 in Toronto - its perfect playoff formula). 2nd Main: No way Chicago should be backs against the wall by losing 2 of 3 on the road without having a chance to steady the momentum with a home game. (Kind of takes home field advantage down a major notch)

@  abat : (19 Oct 2016 - 15:18)

Yes mine too, I was in Cleveland last week the city is pretty amped up this year.

@  METS FANG : (19 Oct 2016 - 15:15)

my money is on Cleveland to finish it up here

@  abat : (19 Oct 2016 - 15:02)

Post season day game and Ron is on!

@  yogib8 : (19 Oct 2016 - 13:56)

being down 2-1 isn't indicitive to me of anything

The Cubs have lost the home advantage, which was a 705% and the Dodgers have neutralized their 346% road record.

@  brian stark : (19 Oct 2016 - 13:15)

The offense has disappeared. The first loss, against Kershaw was not as bad, it's Kershaw after all. Last night? A glorified journeyman stuffed it up their kiesters, and Arrieta was smacked around a bit. Their sphincters have to be tightening.

@  METS FANG : (19 Oct 2016 - 11:59)

lose tonight, and I may come on board to that sentiment. being down 2-1 isn't indicitive to me of anything

@  brian stark : (19 Oct 2016 - 11:19)

Looks to me like the Cubbies are feeling the pressure of expectations, pressing and not executing. Not a good time to be a Chicago fan...

@  Drucifer : (18 Oct 2016 - 22:33)

Marc Carig ‏@MarcCarig
Dodgers 6, Cubs 0: Behind in the NLCS, the Cubs must now deal with some real pressure.

@  Drucifer : (18 Oct 2016 - 19:16)

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Blue Jays Stave Off Elimination With 5-1 Win Over Indians http://wp.me/pZawQ-5qzo

@  West Coast M... : (18 Oct 2016 - 10:52)

Brian, Saxon HAS to be wrong, I agree with you so by default that makes you right and him wrong. Two rights make a RIGHT and a wrong is, well it's just..... wrong. lol

@  brian stark : (17 Oct 2016 - 20:27)

And we can argue that point without condescention. But you will still be wrong. :buddies:

@  brian stark : (17 Oct 2016 - 20:26)

Have to disagree heartily on that point, Sax. There is NOTHING on Earth worst than Suz and that blowhard. I would literally rather have dull pencils shoved into my eardrums repeatedly than listen to those two idiotic buffoons. For the organization that prides itself as the most professional and staid in all of baseball to have those two flaming morons on their broadcast is a travesty of epic proportions.

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